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Thats one of the first major decision taken after the leakage scandal. It has been announced that Cambridge will trackdown the cheaters and they are going to be penalised. I dont think tracking down the cheater can be pratically feasible! And i am 100% sure that all the cheaters cannot be retraced. In fact, there are some questions that travelled via emails, phone calls, sms. How will they track these??
About the Facebook group of Blackpapers.info, The profiles and pictures of those who participated int he discussion are they, but does this mean they are cheaters!?? does this mean these people didnt revise??? How can u differentiate between a genius and someone who cheated?
HOW ARE THEY GOING TO PROCEED???
No details have been reveaed about that. Sure that its going to be very diffucult. and innocents might get problems!
It is possible to retrace ppl using their IP address. Yes. but this involves a great deal of Privacy infridgement. MyT users have dynamic IP. It changes everytime you reset ur livebox. Without the help of the ISP(internet provider) its pratically impossible to traceback. supposed they managed to trace back the names of those internet connection owners who got access to those facebook groups or blackpapers forums, so what??? The names of their MOM OR DAD are thier, bot the name of the students! how are they going to knw who has a son/daughter sitting for exam!? Im still wondering!!
If Facebook collaborates will cambridge and hands over all details about the discssions that took place in those mini forums. Cambridge will get a very bad reputattion and ppl will feel UNSAFE in facebook. This will cause a major impact on Facebook’s popularity. not only in mauritius, but worldwide!
On the other hand, If Facebook doesnt collaborate, they dont loose anything, because i believe that they were NOT PROMOTING leakage. FB is just a platform for communication. just like any other.
FACEBOOK IS NOT THE ONLY PLACE WHERE THE PAPERS WERE LEAKED. (phone calls, emails, sms are also concerned.)
How are they going to track those cheaters????? IS our privacy at risk??? THERE’s absolutely no reason y facebook should be banned.
THE OTHER ugly PICTURE
The decision of tracking down cheaters. Whom does it benefit most??? Cambridge! of course. Whats the other alternative?? Make all the students resit and PAY FOR THEM!!! there’s no way all these students are going to pay again!! So who makes the loss?? yeah.. you got it… so whats the “profitable” solution?? track down cheaters! how???? NO IDEA!!
Waiting for more transparency about this topic. Share your view.s
NOTE : THE GOVERNMENT IS AGAINST THIS DECISION OF CAMBRIDGE!
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UPDATE(01.35am 15/11/08) :
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I now think that these people are not cheaters as some of them did not know that the papers would be the same, they are being called so, because the real culprits need a scapegoat.
I think a resit is the solution, but the actual issue, is that can we attend the exams again? like me, i’m sure all other students are mentally exhausted… and we have forgotten most of what we revised! we need to relax, especially after two years of hardwork and sacrifices… HSC is once, why should we go through that all over again???
Even if the resit is in February or March, we will have study during the holidays, and some are planning to work to save money for their University courses, others are going abroad, others need to badly relax ,because of exams stress, i know many who’ve been sick…
Those who got the papers before will be tracked down, it means that those who did not, will be having their papers corrected like as if nothing happened, the threshold mark will not increase, or it won’t be done severely…
And going for a free resittin is extremely costly, CIE will not be able to pay for 10000 students…
its my opinion, now i don’t really know what will happen??
but i would like to know something, those who used the net, did not know they would be getting the same questions, what about those who use the phone or fax machine to communicate with their penpals or relatives who are abroad??? these students ARE actually cheating, they know that the papers will be the same!! these have been happening for years, i don’t understand why should FB or the students (called cheaters) be blamed for??
concerning those who reported, why did they do that after the xams only?? i read from one of the students who reported, saying that he got access to the information on the eve of the exams and he informed his friends, so they were in contact with papers too, they already knew what would come up too…
If they were really honest, they should have done so before the exams, a call would have been highly enough to start an inquiry, then if the facts were right the exams would have been stopped!
Now all the ‘big papers’ are over, we are somehow relaxed, because we can now enjoy the holidays, but its not the case….
And in 1981, the fact was that the real paper was leaked, it was not DISCUSSIONS! the real paper was actually out before the exams! that is why, cie had to conduct the exams again, but today, its the discussion going one between foreign students, who had previously sat for the papers, and by chance students from mauritius participated in their conversations, but is it really their fault??? i was totally against the cheaters, but now i know that most of them did not know it would be the same papers!!
i’m sure, we all thought that after the Singapore issue, every country would be having different papers, but now i came to know that its not the case….
try to think about that… i want justice too… but resittin just freaks me out… i’m not prepared yet and i’m far too tired… I KNOW I’M NOT THE ONLY ONE GOING THROUGH THIS…
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But those from the Loretto are mainly from the non-science department……..
And non science students have no say?
Do you people even know why there was a re seat in the year 1981?
Because Mauritian Students had received the whole paper.They had got the paper itself sent by whatever technology existed at that particular time.
What happened in 2008 is some questions were discussed.
2 different scenario.
I’m eager to know what is written in the Cambridge report if of course, Cambridge has already prepared and sent it to the authorities here.
non parko………cambridge is on defensive mode……..Ya some of the non-science department…strongly believe that their papers also were leaked……
Yeah.And now everyone will say..hey my papers were leaked out..I want a re seat.
Gosh..I don’t want the re seat because I don’t want to give those idiots and fucking retards another chance just because they have worked badly.
Grow up kiddos.
So, I would really like to know the idiot who said that all RCC students are for re seat.Well, even S4ndeep gave you a precious advice of not messing with me.And to that particular person, you talked FULL RUBBISH.Even at RCC there are two groups of students.one group is for re seat and one is against re seat.HA.you just proved that you’re an idiot and I think that we sould give you a sign that says you’re an idiot and put it around your neck. Till date, {I’m referring to right now}, there have been no decision taken for the re seat.The authorities concern are thinking of ending all relation with Cambridge and adopt the “Baccalauréat International”.What is that system?well, google is your friend.I can’t do everything for you people.DO some research also on your own.
Concerning the tracking of IP to know which and who viewed that particular group or that particular forum, well, that is pure bullshit.
who is the fool who said dat ALL rcc n rcpl r for a resit?? we certainly cannot expect unanimity in any school!! dats damn impossible. Not even loreto college by the way…even if there has been some idiots from loreto college who gave their opinion on the name of the whole college on the newspapers. QEC encor pli pir…they met only to end up in a fight…division total.
As for adopting BI, this can b done only in, lets say 2 years… for the sake of form 4 n lower 6. les prof doivent recevoir une formation avan tou puisk’il fo dir ke cambridge fait kan mem parti de leurs moeurs juska present.
petite note: a head examiner in my examination centre told me dat there is no proof abt the discussion as well n so, probably there has been nofing leaked…
the story takes a new turn… reaction plz??
apparently(according to rumours) the directorate of malaysia is nt even aware of this issue or discussion….
point to b noted: Malaysians were also supposed to b involved in the issue so hw come no one knws abt it???
we were 3 friends(who r for a resit) wen dat person tld us abt dat…n we r in a dilemma.. is this leakage a made-up story?? how abt those who witnessed it?? N the proofs dat apparently lucien finette checked out wen those guys came to MES to inform him abt the leakage? Hw abt the print outs dat some students from 2 or 3 colleges apparently sent to MES to prove these discussion n thus, this leakage??? wont resitting b unfair if all this issue has been made up?
Im just being objective abt this issue.
Sorry sandeep bt i had to reply in this blog itself coz all facts r here n not in the other one.
Post 176………In reference to “Week End” of this….I said all the students….from “RCC”………Am sorry….its my fault…..But it was clearly mentioned that all of them want a re-sit……..but I didn’t said all from RCPL though……..Well I, from ADP….I can certainly tell…….75% of us find a re-sit………the best solution so far..en attendant…The famous report from cambridge…….
“week End” of this week…….
PWND Sagar..
Double check your facts next time.You made me lost my time in conducting a research in RCC.
I did that research to prove that you were wrong.
angelikdevil, mo pou nek blok derier toi et support to ban arguments… parski dan sa “forum” la, letem to donne to ban opinion et ki ena dimoun ki pa pens pareil kuma toi, to gagn tou kaliter harsh comments (from tushal, post 107 To GiDEZEL Are you always this stupid or are you making a special effort today?) et c pa evident gagn 1 discussion constructif ici…
mai vraimen, chapo… to ban opinion et arguments bien balanC…
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about your last comment:
la question etai poser depui bien lontem, mai kmsi zot ti pre-ocuper coz lot zafer ici (ena ti bizin corrige fot anglai so camarad)…
premier dabor, ti bizin mesure lampleur des fuites, comier zelev in gagn acces a ban info, ki kaliter info ti ena, etc…
apre constat:
- si realiser ki ena bocou zelev kin “tricher” then obligatoiremen TOU zelev bizin re-sit…
- si realiser pena bocou zelev in tricher, bizin laiss passer et make sure next year pren ban precaution necessair…
mai non, napa fin fer li.. .
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et pour conclure, 2 phrases…
-apre reflection(i might elaborate but i want to keep it short), mo pas croir ena bocou zelev in gagn ban info la, donc pas pou bizin ena re-sit…
-si mo fin mal evaluer et ki effectivmen, bocou zelev in gagn ban info, BIZIN ena re-sit…
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[NOTE: pou la 2m foi, tushal... plz, don't respond to my comment...
mo coner u don't care about my opinion et ki c pa a moi de te dire sa, mai franchmen, u should learn about something called mutual respect... ou respect tou cour...]
Are you trying to change me?Ha.Keep trying.Good luck.
I am who I am.Get over with it.
What if in the first place, there was no “leakage”?
What if they saw the questions only after their papers?
“to gagn tou kaliter harsh comments (from tushal, post 107 To GiDEZEL Are you always this stupid or are you making a special effort today?)”
It was not a comment. It was a question.Questions end with a ?.
“si realiser ki ena bocou zelev kin “tricher” then obligatoiremen TOU zelev bizin re-sit…”
Sure.Some people are really stubborn to make them understand that those students did not cheat.There is no law which stops you from discussing an exam questions.
You know what.There is another blog hosted by a well known person where you will get some really good answers concerning what you just said.
Some one said it correctly, it is not easy to argue with kids. Because they think that they are never wrong.
the word tricher was between inverted commas.. writing “those who had access to the questions b4 exams” is quite long. I knw it coz i’ve been writing this sentence a lot of times n it’s tiring. So i dnt fink Gidezel really meant it. they didnt cheat, i totally agree(n i fink everyone here agree abt it by now..dats y the word is between inverted commas now) but there’s actually no 1 word to describe it…unless we decide to use a word to describe it on this blog wenever we hav to talk abt them…just to make it easy. like “The Lucky Ones” or “ban tracer”. it will b better if tushal give the word coz u may start insulting us if we giv a wrong word according to u. L’internet est ouvert a tout le monde.
Prove that today’s youngsters are stupid and idiots.
http://tushal.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/kiddos-smoking-and-drinking-ii/
pe faire un peu pub 2puis to blog s4ndeep..:p
The word lucky ones are better suited.:p
I don’t insult people.It’s my way of talking.
wat does drinking n smoking come to do here?? Duh..i dnt even drink or smoke so i dnt feel concerned n even if i did, it’s like deviating from the major subject. Report coming 2moro so let’s wait n c. Any decision will cause havoc any way. if its against resit, those who r for resit will protest n vice versa. one thing is for sure, looks like govt p essaye esquive le probleme.. despite proofs, they r now saying dat they found none during their search?On the 15th proofs were very well there..even lucien finette admitted dat he saw them.Whether the exams shud b cancelled or not is one thing but denying so many evidences is another…politics? Possibility dat the govt is ready to play wid the future of mauritian youngsters for the sake of politics(n perhaps money) is pretty disgusting… In the coming years, zot pou soutir larzen ek nu mem.
@tushal.. its ok..
u can do ur pub
@angelikdevil.. come’on he was just doing a little pub..
he doesn’t care abt wat others say anyway…Hmmm,it’s my way of talking u c…
sooooooooooooooooooooo any news so far on the resit stuff?
Angelikdevil–>It’s politics, like it or not, you will never know the full report.xD.
It’s called PUBLICITY.Perhaps if you watch T.V you will see that publicities have nothing to do with the tv shows you’re watching.xD
And yeah, you’re right.I don’t care what others think about me.
The only way to get my full attention is ‘not to write in SMS lingo.’
The Cambridge representatives are coming to Mauritius today{Saturday} and after having a discussion with them, the local authorities will take a decision.
But I still think that Cambridge is “shifting” the blame on those few students and it’s sad to find out that many idiots are “walking” along Cambridge.
The reason why I put it here, is to show that the upcoming generation of youngsters are crap and full of shit.
“Duh..i dnt even drink or smoke so i dnt feel concerned ”
You just lied..Although you don’t smoke and drink, I still think that you’re concerned especially when some one is smoking next to you.xD
@candle. no news yet. When the final decision is out. i will close the comments on this article and arite another blog post to let everyone express themselves!
right tushal, u caught my lie…those who smoke in the bus for instance…:SS we r actually inhaling wat they took out from their nose perhaps…urgh…but well, the one who smokes next to me is not necessarily a youngster..pffff…bon passons.. we r PROBABLY going to resit for physics n chemistry paper…so better start revising from now itself!! WOW! i neva had such a gr8 holiday in my life.. -,-
only those who r competng wil resit ????
nthg confirmed yet…some interesting stuffs happening between CIE and The Ministry of Education… been 3 days now
No re sit for HSC exams..